Here's why i think the 124 spider will do well...

"BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires" (biturbo228)
11/20/2015 at 03:57 • Filed to: None

When was the last properly small lightweight rwd turbocharged car? I really hope tuners get hold of this fast. Based on what’s currently available for the 500 abarth you should be a remap away from 190bhp and a few boltons from 220 :) that’s just your basic cheapo tunes as well. I wonder how far it can be pushed...

DISCUSSION (18)

Wheelerguy > BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires
11/20/2015 at 03:59

400 hp.

Full of the sound of the Gran Fury, signifying nothing. > BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires
11/20/2015 at 04:17

For racing, will this car be in the same class as a Miata, or different because of the turbo?

RiceRocketeer Extraordinaire > BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires
11/20/2015 at 04:19

I think I agree. The ND Miata for me sounds like a strange compromise - we’ll make a driver’s car by stripping out weight, but we’ll power it with a pencil sharpener and put it on marshmallow suspension? Also hope Fiat did their own seats, the back rest felt pretty awkward to me.

BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires > RiceRocketeer Extraordinaire
11/20/2015 at 04:35

Yeah it is a bit of a car that’s built for two separate markets. I can see why they’ve done it that way, people who are interested in a proper sports car are more likely to just swap out the springs and shocks than your average hairdresser.

Don't get me wrong, I like the MX-5 and the direction it's gone, but I'm glad that there's another option with a slightly different tack...

BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires > Full of the sound of the Gran Fury, signifying nothing.
11/20/2015 at 04:36

Hmmm, you know I don’t know. Stock they’d probably be in the same autocross class I’m thinking. One’s slightly lighter, the other’s slightly more powerful. Seems like they even out.

Modified I think the game changes as without sticking a turbo on the MX-5 the gains will be much larger on the Fiat.

BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires > Wheelerguy
11/20/2015 at 04:37

400 whp ;)

Wheelerguy > BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires
11/20/2015 at 04:40

Needs more chassis tuning by then. If I’m gonna tune, I’ll want to keep it within the abilities of the car’s chassis.

BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires > Wheelerguy
11/20/2015 at 04:43

They’ve already got one to 300bhp (360bhp race)...

https://www.carthrottle.com/post/romeo-fer…

CCC (formerly CyclistCarCoexist) > BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires
11/20/2015 at 04:45

I cannot wait for the Abarth Version. And some company can make a design that will transform it into an orgasmic Alfa, my tentacles would fall into her arms.

BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires > CCC (formerly CyclistCarCoexist)
11/20/2015 at 05:05

I was just wondering what it would take to transform it into an Alfa Spider.

First off a 1750TBi engine. Not been mated to a longitudinal gearbox yet, but that kind of thing has been done before so can’t be too hard.

Rear lights from a MiTo (they’re the most perfect thing about that design, just simple and elegant).

Headlights from a MiTo as well, or from a Giulietta (not sure about size here, don’t want it to be bug-eyed).

Just need a grille that isn’t so big we end up with CSL-Hommage syndrome...

Kinja'd!!!

LongbowMkII > RiceRocketeer Extraordinaire
11/20/2015 at 06:54

I see it the other way. the 124 seems more tuned for cruising. no mention of any brembo/bilstein package or any sport package. I guess that’s what the abarth will be, but FCA hasn’t been revealing great things lately (looking at you guilia)

BloodlessWeevil > BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires
11/20/2015 at 07:27

Paging Abarth, Abarth to the service desk please...

TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts. > BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires
11/20/2015 at 09:12

I did a half assed search but couldn’t find any pricing guide. Where is this going to sit relative to the Miata?

functionoverfashion > BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires
11/20/2015 at 09:31

Wasn’t there a turbo miata, the Mazdaspeed MX5? Or color me ignorant... I’ve got my helmet on I’m ready.

BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires > functionoverfashion
11/20/2015 at 09:36

Yeah the NB generation had a turbo Mazdaspeed version, but that was a limited run.

You can also fairly easily turbo the older MX-5s, but I think this new one will be harder than the old 'slap a low-blow turbo on and be done with it) of the NA/NBs. 14:1 compression ratio will see to that...

BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires > TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts.
11/20/2015 at 09:36

Hmmm, can't remember exactly but I think it's a little more expensive...

functionoverfashion > BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires
11/20/2015 at 10:47

Gotcha... yeah I drove one but knowing the owner, I wasn’t sure if it was a factory/stock thing, or some creation of his because I don’t think I’ve ever seen another one. And wow, it was fun.

RiceRocketeer Extraordinaire > LongbowMkII
11/20/2015 at 12:49

Right, that’s why I’m hoping they put in some comfier seats and didn’t mention anything about gram strategy weight savings — at least the Fiata seems to know what it is.